Lumps over top of hip / low back Video

Here’s a video I recently made about a fairly common situation that affects at least ten percent of people and that is lumps that form over the low back or across the top of the hip.  In most people who have them they are nothing to worry about.  However, in a small percentage of those who have them, they can cause severe back pain, often mimicking a herniated disc.  It is one of the most overlooked cause of back pain because most doctors are not familiar with them.

These are commonly called back mice.  Other medical term are multifidus triangle syndrome, episacral lipoma, lumbar fascial fat herniation, and iliac crest pain syndrome.

I made an earlier blog post about it   For More information go to:  http://discomfortfree.com/2010/11/lumps-in-low-back-top-of-hip/

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Lumps over top of hip / low back Video — 14 Comments

  1. Amy, there is nothing to freak out about. Please read my earlier post http://discomfortfree.com/2010/11/lumps-in-low-back-top-of-hip/ which has more information. Also look at the replies I have to other people’s comments. You will find most of your answers there.

    99.9% of the time if the lump is within the muscle it is a knot -which is muscle fibers stuck together. If it is between the skin and the muscle or between the skin and the bone it is a back mouse.

    Unless you have had debilitating back pain for months, relax. Read my replies to other comments on that other posts.

  2. I found a lump, and it’s painful, but it feels hard….and it’s hard to tell if it moves around or not. How”firm” are these lumps? I’m so freaked out!

  3. Sharon, I do not know who David Bond is, but the people referenced in the report are in the Medical Field and it is their findings that count. Plus he gives the references he used at the end of the publication. Who David Bond is is not really the obstacle you think it is. The only advise I can give is what I have given others in the comment section of this thread.

  4. Sharon on said:

    This information is so helpful. I am certain this is the answer to my chronic severe back pain, as all the symptoms and risk factors fit my situation exactly. However, I’m not sure I can find a Dr. who will believe me. Do you have any advice for a starting point? My primary care Dr. is probably not going to be open to anything that doesn’t come from medical source. I printed out medical terminology info from the link you provided, but it does not say if the author, David Bond, is an MD? I would much appreciate any help you can give.

  5. Hi Sandy, I,m giving you the same answer as in your other post. I cannot give an opinion as to whether this causes your pain as I’ve told everything I know about them. But bending forward does make it worse. What amazes me is how hard a time people have finding a doctor that will even listen to them and consider the possibility.

    Apparently the diagnosis is very simple. Inject the things with anesthetic and see if that makes the problem go away until the anesthesia wears off. Either it will or it won’t.

    I think the reason people have had better luck with board certified plastic surgeons is because they (as a group) may be more willing to listen. After all who else can yo go to and say “make my nose smaller, give me fat lips and big boobs,” and they say “okay, let’s talk”

    Hilma

  6. Hi Sandy, I cannot give an opinion as to whether this causes your pain as I’ve told everything I know about them. But bending forward does make it worse. What amazes me is how hard a time people have finding a doctor that will even listen to them and consider the possibility.

    Apparently the diagnosis is very simple. Inject the things with anesthetic and see if that makes the problem go away until the anesthesia wears off. Either it will or it won’t.

    I think the reason people have had better luck with board certified plastic surgeons is because they (as a group) may be more willing to listen. After all who else can yo go to and say “make my nose smaller, give me fat lips and big boobs,” and they say “okay, let’s talk”

    Hilma

  7. I have been looking into the cause of my worsening back pain now for over two years. I’ve done the MRI, Xray, anti-inflammatory drugs, chiropractor, and no results that satisfy. Everyone says the same thing. Arthritis. Im 44 years old and I have arthritis in my wrist from an accident years ago. This is NOT the same! I never thought till reading this article that the pain could have to do with the growing amount of “lumps” in my back.
    One thing I have not heard anyone else mention is increased loss of motion. Recently, when I bend forward or twist, I cant. I have to squat instead if bend and twist. Also seems like the pain is radiating into my groin and its getting harder to bring my right leg up to me chest. Could this all be related to the “Back Mice”? They have grown in size as well as number.
    If I rub them they get sore and the soreness lingers and sometimes almost feel nauseous. But I haven’t found that this brings the “excruciating” pain that others describe.
    At this point I’m worried that I might end up disabled if it gets worse.
    Thank you,
    I look forward to your opinion.

  8. Laurie Lambert on said:

    I thank all of you for your comments and most especially the video that I can pass on to family who don’t understand why I’m not getting better from pain shots, pain pills, muscle relaxants (don’t work on the back mouse only surrounding tissue that becomes tense) OTC anti-inflammatories, etc., etc! I’m in tears thinking I can actually find a surgeon that will help me as I’m quite debilitated by what I am now sure is my condition. I will post again when I have more info. Peace

  9. I am so happy to have found this info. I, like so many others whose comments I have read have been suffering for a few years now with what I now believe to be a mouse. I discovered that there is a lump in the dimple of my left buttock that I think may have developed as a result of a fall on a ceramic tile floor. I did not go to a doctor for a check-up. My husband died unexpectedly in 2011. I have no insurance so I avoid medical visits. I did however go for an appointment about back pain once and x-rays revealed arthritis which affects millions of Americans. Recently the pain has intensified and occurs frequently. It has interfered with my ability to do strenuous labor. I called to seek advice from my physician and had a conversation with her nurse. I feel that she doesn’t think that my condition is as painful as I claim. It’s a comfort to know that others are /have experienced my symptoms and know exactly what I’m going through .

  10. I hope you find the relief you need. Keep us posted.

  11. Lori Borges on said:

    Ohh yeah,, I am sure this is what I have and have had for years. The pain is constant now and is so bad that when it comes on I clinch my teeth and bear down so hard I’m surprised I have not broken my teeth. The pain is so severe it literally knocks me off my feed, I log roll out of bed and have to hang on to nearby furniture in case I get hit with as I call it, My Truckload of Pain. My mom was taking me to the hospital last year because the pain was so bad, and when I tried to get in her car, after literally crawling from my house to the curb, it hurt so bad I open my mouth to scream but, nothing came out. The hospital staff was in the dark about this condition, passed out pills and pain shots and sent me home. I am glad I found this site and the video. Tomorrow, I will contact Stanford Medical University, in California to see if they know about this and can help me. Thank you soooo much!! <3

  12. andrew c on said:

    Superb! I have this condition, and its extremely pronounced. My back issues are a unique situation consisting of a number of different issues. I have found yet another missing piece to my puzzle. Its often said, we learn from our mistakes. Keep that in mind when seeing a doctor. The more experience he/she has, the better. When my sister graduated from medical school last year, I realized they are just people like you and I, and do not always know whats best for you. Take charge of your own health. Dont just put it in someone elses hands and cross your fingers.

  13. Thank you. That sounds exactly like my problem. I’ve noticed when I have on pants with a certain waistband, it aggravates the condition. If massage makes inflames it, the constant pressure from the waistband would have the same effect. Thanks again!

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